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if you didnt see this post in time and did all the wrong things begged, pleeded, cried in front of them etc and intially kept e-mailing etc and they also have a new boy friend now is it too late and to start using the rules will it not matter now because Im now seen as pathetic?

The weirdest thing happened today. I hung out with my friends and had a lot of fun but I was kinda sad/pissed towards the end of the night because I wished she would come over afterwards. I didnt attempt to contact her because I knew it was an emotionally low time for me. She then signed on online a little bit later and we talked for a while online. And oddly enough, it actually made me feel a lot better. Usually when I would talk to her in those situations I would be a whiney baby, but I held my composure and actually got off a good conversation where I felt normal. I did exactly what superdave said, and just acted like a friend would. Nothing more nothing less.

She actually got pissed at me for saying her name. I originally was about to type love or babe but erased it and put in her name instead. She said, will you stop saying my name like that its freaking me out! I also told her my sister was planning on visiting this weekend, and she said she couldnt wait to see her again because she doesnt feel liek she knows her that well. Mind you, I never said anything about the three of us hanging out, in fact figured we probably shouldnt. She also offered to cook me my favorite food. She has also been planning my birthday for about a month now and it is still a month and a half away.

I normally would be tempted to read into all of this and drive myself crazy. However, I am not going to allow myself to do it. I love where I am right now, or at least more than where I was before. I feel stronger and in control. I have been doing things I like to do. I know she is a very compassionate person, so I will not interpret anything she says or does as anythign more than friendship. Doing so would be detrimental to my progress! Thansk superdave, I think you would be proud!

I presented him with the separation agreement. He said that he didn't want to sign it but would do it if it made me happy. I told him he couldn't sign it, it had to be reviewed and signed by both of us in the presence of a notary. He said, "what I want todo is throw this in in the garbage, because you know I want to come back to you, but I just don't know when." I said, "take a look at it. This is for both our benefit." He said, "why does everything have to be so fast? Why do you have to rush things? Don't you know I'm terrified of repeating the same mistakes with you right away? I don't love this person I'm with and I can't afford to get my own place." I told him I couldn't respect that.

I want to just walk away and not do anything about it. Not to worry about anything at all. I create a lot of problems for myself with my anxiety and rush to resolve things. I'm not saying I agree with his actions 100%, but maybe it is time to start applying NC religiously. I asked him at the conclusion of our conversation not to contact me unless it was something to do with our daughter. I need some suggestions from the forum folks out there about NC with children.